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Will Kodu beat out the massage apps?

Last post 9/9/2009 11:38 PM by xMONOx. 68 replies.
  • 7/9/2009 6:39 AM In reply to

    Re: Will Kodu beat out the massage apps?

    RC-AirSim. Or maybe a massage app.
  • 7/14/2009 4:34 PM In reply to

    Re: Will Kodu beat out the massage apps?

    AzBat360:
    Looks like Kodu beat out the massage apps after all...

    1     Kodu Game Lab
    2     RC-AirSim
    3     myFishtank
    4     A Perfect Massage
    5     A Morons Challenge
    6     Illusions 360
    7     DrumKit
    8     Rumble Massage
    9     Shiatsu Massage
    10    Aquarium HD


    Kodu did it again this week...

    1     Kodu Game Lab
    2     RC-AirSim
    3     myFishtank
    4     A Perfect Massage
    5     Urban Art Gallery
    6     Shiatsu Massage
    7     A Morons Challenge
    8     Sketch
    9     DrumKit
    10    Illusions 360

    Rumble Massage & Aquarium HD are out & replaced with newbies Urban Art Gallery & Sketch. The closest thing we have a to real game is A Morons Challenge(excluding Kodu of course). Let's hope those "quality projects" mentioned by Microsoft's Charlie Skilbeck are coming quick...

    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/xblc-games-poised-to-break-out-ms

    Tommy McClain
    "it did seem odd that people were more interested in finding that one bug using a guitar controller signed in with player 4, no profile, memory card in/out, xbox angled @ 90deg through a black and white TV with one eye closed listening to their favourite song on custom tracks was more important than if the game was actually any good!?" - PhoenixSS
  • 7/14/2009 4:46 PM In reply to

    Re: Will Kodu beat out the massage apps?

    AzBat360:

    (excluding Kodu of course).


    As I've pointed out before, everyone keeps championing Kodu for beating out these "apps"...but Kodu itself *IS* an app! It's not a game that's for sure. It's an application people can use to create user created games. It definitely can't fall into the game category by any stretch so an app is still reigning supreme on the list. It just happens to be an app people aren't complaining about...
  • 7/14/2009 4:59 PM In reply to

    Re: Will Kodu beat out the massage apps?

    Kodu is an example of what happens if you produce a HIGH QUALITY app which is MARKETED well.... compare the production values in Kodu with 90% of the games. Google Kodu and then google your game... notice anything? Yes I understand having Microsoft behind you doing your marketing helps but its does show what happens when both of those things come together... you can't just kick a half completed game with developer art on here and expect it to sell.
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  • 7/14/2009 5:04 PM In reply to

    Re: Will Kodu beat out the massage apps?

    George Clingerman:
    AzBat360:

    (excluding Kodu of course).


    As I've pointed out before, everyone keeps championing Kodu for beating out these "apps"...but Kodu itself *IS* an app! It's not a game that's for sure. It's an application people can use to create user created games. It definitely can't fall into the game category by any stretch so an app is still reigning supreme on the list. It just happens to be an app people aren't complaining about...


    With the game sharing ability(and it's new push update coming) it can definitely fall into the game category. People can just buy it knowing that they can get lots of games for free. It's a lot more unique than the other apps & it deserves the championing it gets over the competition.

    Tommy McClain
    "it did seem odd that people were more interested in finding that one bug using a guitar controller signed in with player 4, no profile, memory card in/out, xbox angled @ 90deg through a black and white TV with one eye closed listening to their favourite song on custom tracks was more important than if the game was actually any good!?" - PhoenixSS
  • 7/21/2009 9:16 PM In reply to

    Re: Will Kodu beat out the massage apps?

    AzBat360:


    1     Kodu Game Lab
    2     RC-AirSim
    3     myFishtank
    4     A Perfect Massage
    5     Urban Art Gallery
    6     Shiatsu Massage
    7     A Morons Challenge
    8     Sketch
    9     DrumKit
    10    Illusions 360



    Another week is upon us. Congrats to Kodu again for keeping the massage apps at bay...

    1   Kodu Game Lab
    2   RC-AirSim
    3   Gamerbots:Third-Robot Shooting
    4   myFishtank
    5   Fireworks HD
    6   A Perfect Massage
    7   A Morons Challenge
    8   Sketch
    9   Urban Art Gallery
    10  Shiatsu Massage

    DrumKit & Illusions 360 dropped out and were replaced with Gamerbots:Third-Robot Shooting & Fireworks HD.

    Tommy McClain
    "it did seem odd that people were more interested in finding that one bug using a guitar controller signed in with player 4, no profile, memory card in/out, xbox angled @ 90deg through a black and white TV with one eye closed listening to their favourite song on custom tracks was more important than if the game was actually any good!?" - PhoenixSS
  • 7/21/2009 9:43 PM In reply to

    Re: Will Kodu beat out the massage apps?

    AzBat360:
    AzBat360:


    1     Kodu Game Lab
    2     RC-AirSim
    3     myFishtank
    4     A Perfect Massage
    5     Urban Art Gallery
    6     Shiatsu Massage
    7     A Morons Challenge
    8     Sketch
    9     DrumKit
    10    Illusions 360



    Another week is upon us. Congrats to Kodu again for keeping the massage apps at bay...

    1   Kodu Game Lab
    2   RC-AirSim
    3   Gamerbots:Third-Robot Shooting
    4   myFishtank
    5   Fireworks HD
    6   A Perfect Massage
    7   A Morons Challenge
    8   Sketch
    9   Urban Art Gallery
    10  Shiatsu Massage

    DrumKit & Illusions 360 dropped out and were replaced with Gamerbots:Third-Robot Shooting & Fireworks HD.

    Tommy McClain
    I'm coming for ya Kodu! LOL  ;) ;) ;)
  • 8/12/2009 1:28 AM In reply to

    Re: Will Kodu beat out the massage apps?

    AzBat360:

    1   Kodu Game Lab
    2   RC-AirSim
    3   Gamerbots:Third-Robot Shooting
    4   myFishtank
    5   Fireworks HD
    6   A Perfect Massage
    7   A Morons Challenge
    8   Sketch
    9   Urban Art Gallery
    10  Shiatsu Massage


    I fell behind. Sorry. Here's the following week...

    1   RC-AirSim
    2   Fireworks HD
    3   myFishtank
    4   Kodu Game Lab
    5   Gamerbots:Third-Robot Shooting
    6   A Perfect Massage
    7   Physics Sandbox
    8   3D Magic Images
    9   Cyborg Mice Arena
    10  A Morons Challenge

    I'm just beside myself. I seriously think that there are some robots out there where they just keep buying RC-Airsim. LOL j/k :)

    Surprised about Kodu dropping from 1 to 4.

    Not much more commentary since I'm so behind...

    The following week(July 27) Major Nelson's list is identical to July 20. Looks like a goof. Here's the list for last week (August 3)...

    1  Who Did I Date Last Night
    2  Physics Sandbox
    3  Digital Art Gallery Callad
    4  myFishtank
    5  RC-AirSim
    6  Drop Zone
    7  Fireworks HD
    8  Aquarium HD
    9  Kodu Game Lab
    10  DrumKit

    Kodu is about gone! Wow. Maybe that first patch turned everybody off? I think it would do a lot better as an XBLA title. At least the massage apps are off the list, but there are still very few traditional games on the list.

    Tommy McClain
    "it did seem odd that people were more interested in finding that one bug using a guitar controller signed in with player 4, no profile, memory card in/out, xbox angled @ 90deg through a black and white TV with one eye closed listening to their favourite song on custom tracks was more important than if the game was actually any good!?" - PhoenixSS
  • 8/12/2009 2:47 AM In reply to

    Re: Will Kodu beat out the massage apps?

    AzBat360:
    Kodu is about gone! Wow.
    I'm not surprised. You get some initial hype which draws in people until they all realize that making games is hard and they'd rather play than create. There was no doubt in my mind that Kodu would not last very long at the top.
  • 8/12/2009 3:10 AM In reply to

    Re: Will Kodu beat out the massage apps?

    Nick Gravelyn:
    until they all realize that making games is hard and they'd rather play than create.


    Nail on the head. Those who build.(Seems to be very few of us at times.) Those who play.(Keep those who build in business :) )
  • 8/12/2009 3:23 AM In reply to

    Re: Will Kodu beat out the massage apps?

    Interesting shakeup in the past few weeks, maybe the name/price changes are attracting a different demographic. I think we can safely say that Kodu DID beat out the massage apps, as it's the only one in the top 10. I wonder what kind of user ratings massage apps will get...
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  • 8/18/2009 1:28 PM In reply to

    Re: Will Kodu beat out the massage apps?

    AzBat360:

    1  Who Did I Date Last Night
    2  Physics Sandbox
    3  Digital Art Gallery Callad
    4  myFishtank
    5  RC-AirSim
    6  Drop Zone
    7  Fireworks HD
    8  Aquarium HD
    9  Kodu Game Lab
    10  DrumKit


    1    Headshot
    2    Who Did I Date Last Night
    3    Physics Sandbox
    4    Miner Dig Deep
    5    RC-AirSim
    6    myFishtank
    7    麻雀 三六荘 (Mah Jong Sabrosso, only available in Japan)
    8    MADRISM
    9    Aquarium HD
    10  Fireworks HD

    Looks like the Top Rated category is actually having an effect on the Top Sold. Miner Dig Deep hasn't been in Top 10 in forever. Unfortunately not all in the Top Rated are feeling the effects since Kodu is now off the Top 10 & Emuze & Carneyvale Showtime aren't in the list either.

    Tommy McClain
    "it did seem odd that people were more interested in finding that one bug using a guitar controller signed in with player 4, no profile, memory card in/out, xbox angled @ 90deg through a black and white TV with one eye closed listening to their favourite song on custom tracks was more important than if the game was actually any good!?" - PhoenixSS
  • 8/18/2009 2:13 PM In reply to

    Re: Will Kodu beat out the massage apps?

    AzBat360:
    AzBat360:

    1  Who Did I Date Last Night
    2  Physics Sandbox
    3  Digital Art Gallery Callad
    4  myFishtank
    5  RC-AirSim
    6  Drop Zone
    7  Fireworks HD
    8  Aquarium HD
    9  Kodu Game Lab
    10  DrumKit


    1    Headshot
    2    Who Did I Date Last Night
    3    Physics Sandbox
    4    Miner Dig Deep
    5    RC-AirSim
    6    myFishtank
    7    麻雀 三六荘 (Mah Jong Sabrosso, only available in Japan)
    8    MADRISM
    9    Aquarium HD
    10  Fireworks HD

    Looks like the Top Rated category is actually having an effect on the Top Sold. Miner Dig Deep hasn't been in Top 10 in forever. Unfortunately not all in the Top Rated are feeling the effects since Kodu is now off the Top 10 & Emuze & Carneyvale Showtime aren't in the list either.

    Tommy McClain


    the real surprise is a game sold only in japan that makes the 7th position, unbeliavable! (and MADRISM? looks like it is not available in USA market)
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  • 8/18/2009 2:43 PM In reply to

    Re: Will Kodu beat out the massage apps?

    Running Pixel:
    the real surprise is a game sold only in japan that makes the 7th position, unbeliavable! (and MADRISM? looks like it is not available in USA market)


    Agreed. BTW, Madrism is on the US Marketplace. I've downloaded it. Kinda wierd, it's about building house plans. ;)

    Tommy McClain
    "it did seem odd that people were more interested in finding that one bug using a guitar controller signed in with player 4, no profile, memory card in/out, xbox angled @ 90deg through a black and white TV with one eye closed listening to their favourite song on custom tracks was more important than if the game was actually any good!?" - PhoenixSS
  • 8/29/2009 11:47 PM In reply to

    Re: Will Kodu beat out the massage apps?

    AzBat360:

    1    Headshot
    2    Who Did I Date Last Night
    3    Physics Sandbox
    4    Miner Dig Deep
    5    RC-AirSim
    6    myFishtank
    7    麻雀 三六荘 (Mah Jong Sabrosso, only available in Japan)
    8    MADRISM
    9    Aquarium HD
    10  Fireworks HD


    1    I MAED A GAM3 W1TH Z0MB1ES!!!1
    2    Headshot 
    3    Who Did I Date Last Night
    4    Miner Dig Deep 
    5    The Drinking Game
    6    RC-AirSim 
    7    Physics Sandbox
    8    myFishtank
    9    Aquarium HD
    10   Kodu Game Lab

    Kodu is back on the Top 10. Looks like both the Top Downloaded(9 in the list)  & Top Rated(3 in the list) lists are having varying affects on the bought list. Love how such a great like IMAGWZ can go from nothing to #1 in a week. That should be a great clue to XNA developers that to get the crazy sales you'll need a great game with a great hook at a great price. But let's hope they don't just make more clones either. We don't need clones, we need variety.

    Tommy McClain
    "it did seem odd that people were more interested in finding that one bug using a guitar controller signed in with player 4, no profile, memory card in/out, xbox angled @ 90deg through a black and white TV with one eye closed listening to their favourite song on custom tracks was more important than if the game was actually any good!?" - PhoenixSS
  • 9/4/2009 10:39 PM In reply to

    Re: Will Kodu beat out the massage apps?

    AzBat360:

    1    I MAED A GAM3 W1TH Z0MB1ES!!!1
    2    Headshot 
    3    Who Did I Date Last Night
    4    Miner Dig Deep 
    5    The Drinking Game
    6    RC-AirSim 
    7    Physics Sandbox
    8    myFishtank
    9    Aquarium HD
    10   Kodu Game Lab


    1 I MAED A GAM3 W1TH Z0MB1ES!!!1
    2 Headshot
    3 Who Did I Date Last Night
    4 Miner Dig Deep
    5 The Drinking Game
    6 Track Architect
    7 Physics Sandbox
    8 Zombies 2.0
    9 RC-AirSim
    10 Streets of Fury

    Looks like the Top 5 are the same. It's now the battle for the bottom 5. Will be interesting to see how next week turns out.

    Tommy McClain
    "it did seem odd that people were more interested in finding that one bug using a guitar controller signed in with player 4, no profile, memory card in/out, xbox angled @ 90deg through a black and white TV with one eye closed listening to their favourite song on custom tracks was more important than if the game was actually any good!?" - PhoenixSS
  • 9/9/2009 4:32 PM In reply to

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    AzBat360:
    1 I MAED A GAM3 W1TH Z0MB1ES!!!1
    2 Headshot
    3 Who Did I Date Last Night
    4 Miner Dig Deep
    5 The Drinking Game
    6 Track Architect
    7 Physics Sandbox
    8 Zombies 2.0
    9 RC-AirSim
    10 Streets of Fury


    1   I MAED A GAM3 W1TH Z0MB1ES!!!1
    2   Avatar Drop
    3   Headshot 
    4   Track Architect 
    5   Avatar Golf
    6   Who Did I Date Last Night 
    7   Miner Dig Deep  
    8   The Drinking Game  
    9   Physics Sandbox 
    10  ezmuze+ Hamst3r edition

    I understand that Kodu & massage apps ares no longer in the list, but it's nice to have one place to look at the lists for comparison & posterity.

    I think we can safely say that having user ratings has done what we wanted it to do: let the better games & apps percolate to the top.

    EDIT: If a mod could split all the Top 10 messages to it's own thread then we might could put this thread to bed.

    Tommy McClain
    "it did seem odd that people were more interested in finding that one bug using a guitar controller signed in with player 4, no profile, memory card in/out, xbox angled @ 90deg through a black and white TV with one eye closed listening to their favourite song on custom tracks was more important than if the game was actually any good!?" - PhoenixSS
  • 9/9/2009 5:42 PM In reply to

    Re: Will Kodu beat out the massage apps?

    Or people can just bookmark or subscribe to the RSS for Major Nelson's top ten page: http://majornelson.com/archive/tags/Top+10/default.aspx. There's little to no point in just copy/pasting them over here considering there's really no discussion happening around them. And since his site has all of them in one easy to find place, it would be redundant to duplicate that on these forums.
  • 9/9/2009 11:38 PM In reply to

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    I like having a place to look for top this week and past week.  Keep it up :)
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