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C#/XNA Game Dev Degree?

Last post 07-04-2008 7:14 AM by brockmeister. 27 replies.
  • 02-15-2008 6:43 PM

    C#/XNA Game Dev Degree?

    Is there any college in the US that offers a Game Dev degree in C# or XNA? Perferabbly not Devry (Not sure if they even offer it), Full Sail, or Digipen. I've looked through multiple colleges all over the country and havn't found a single one that uses C#, everyone is still stuck in C++ or Java. :(

  • 02-15-2008 8:57 PM In reply to

    Re: C#/XNA Game Dev Degree?

    Colleges aren't going to start offering Game Development degrees in C# and XNA until game companies have positions for them. That shift in the industy hasn't happened yet, so I wouldn't expect to find any programs designed around it just yet. If you're interested in game development, there's no harm in working in a program that focuses on C++. Game Development itself is the study, what language you write a game in is seconday. Learning HOW to make games is a seperate issue then learning the language you use to make them.

    You could also consider getting just a standard computer science degree. From what I've read on game companies and their hiring practices, they don't necessarily look for a gaming degree to get you in the door. A standard computer science degree will cover .NET programming and give you a well rounded education so that you are a bit more flexible for all kinds of work in the industry.
  • 02-15-2008 9:03 PM In reply to

    Re: C#/XNA Game Dev Degree?

    Zukarakox:

    Is there any college in the US that offers a Game Dev degree in C# or XNA? Perferabbly not Devry (Not sure if they even offer it), Full Sail, or Digipen. I've looked through multiple colleges all over the country and havn't found a single one that uses C#, everyone is still stuck in C++ or Java. :(



    I think that you are looking at this the wrong way. You should not be looking for programs which teach a specific programming language. You should be looking for programs which teach you the underlying programming and software design concepts inherent in game development. Programming languages come and go. Why be limited to the constructs of one language when the concepts of object oriented design, cohesion, coupling, etc. are valuable across languages?
  • 02-15-2008 9:14 PM In reply to

    Re: C#/XNA Game Dev Degree?

    I totally agree with mairsil...learning the concepts is much better then just a specific language.

    But a MCXD (Microsoft Certified XNA Developer) course like MCSD/MCAD/MCDBA would be very cool though. I would start with that like...yesterday!!

  • 02-15-2008 9:38 PM In reply to

    Re: C#/XNA Game Dev Degree?

    All valid points, but my question was directed at looking for a college that uses C#, not the material learned in the course. As far as I'm concered, learning it in Java or C++ is just as good as C#, but I'm going to be programming in C#, so why not try to find a place where I don't have to switch between languages?

  • 02-15-2008 11:08 PM In reply to

    Re: C#/XNA Game Dev Degree?

    Zukarakox:

    All valid points, but my question was directed at looking for a college that uses C#, not the material learned in the course. As far as I'm concered, learning it in Java or C++ is just as good as C#, but I'm going to be programming in C#, so why not try to find a place where I don't have to switch between languages?



    It is definitely true that the concepts apply regardless of the language, so why worry about what language a program uses? In the end it is your choice, but you shouldn't limit yourself to only programs running C#.
  • 02-16-2008 2:34 AM In reply to

    Re: C#/XNA Game Dev Degree?

    Once you learn one language, you can learn the rest relatively easily. But if you have to choose between a school that teaches Java vs one that teaches C++, definitely choose the one that teaches C++. It's good for you :)
  • 02-16-2008 3:40 PM In reply to

    Re: C#/XNA Game Dev Degree?

    If you dont have any useful information on the question asked, don't respond.

  • 02-16-2008 4:11 PM In reply to

    Re: C#/XNA Game Dev Degree?

    Well here's the problem: you most likely will not be able to find what you are looking for. I would be surprised if you found many programs which only deal with one single language, though those are much more likely to exist for Java or C++. While Game Development programs are more apt to updating, C# is still quite new, relatively speaking, and will take time to adopt. On the other hand, the development of a single game can encompass several languages: C++ for the executable, C# for the tools, Lua for scripting, etc. A true game dev program would be lacking if it limited itself to just C#.

    I just finished teaching a game design course in XNA and C# last semester. Most of the students I taught had backgrounds in C++ and Java and had never touched C# before, but were more than able to transfer their knowledge to the new language. To be honest, I think I have taught classes in three or four different languages in a single computer science program at the same university. Anyone can learn a language on their own with or without a course to go with it. You don't generally go into a college program to learn a language; you go to learn the fundamentals of programming, software design, etc. on the way to earning a degree. If you really only care about C#, there are plenty of resources here and linked in the FAQ's to get up and running without needing a game dev program. You may not feel like this information is useful, but believe me it is.
  • 02-16-2008 6:06 PM In reply to

    Re: C#/XNA Game Dev Degree?

    Leave it at 'You will most likely not find what you are looking for. <Heres why>.'

    I know about game dev , I never said I didn't, nor did I ask anything about them, so why the crap do you keep talking about it even after I clearly showed that I didn't care?

  • 02-16-2008 6:17 PM In reply to

    Re: C#/XNA Game Dev Degree?

    If that is how you feel, then I would seriously recommend taking a look back at the advice given by everyone in this thread. If you still don't want any advice beyond people just blindly listing schools, well then I wish you luck in your searching.
  • 02-16-2008 8:18 PM In reply to

    Re: C#/XNA Game Dev Degree?

    Look at who the advice is from, random people on the web. I was wondering if anyone had heard of a C# program, not to 'blindly' join it, but for a place to start to see if it was worthwhile. Seeing as all local game dev programs I've looked at have been totally worthless, broadening my search wouldn't exactly hurt.

  • 02-17-2008 9:16 AM In reply to

    Re: C#/XNA Game Dev Degree?

    Zukarakox- I understand you're frustrated but the people are trying to help you so cut them some slack.

    If you want to learn C# take a certification course.  If you want to learn game dev, at the current time you're either going to either have to go to a college and learn it in either C++ or you'll have to do it yourself.  There's enough resources on the web to teach you quite a bit.  I know you don't want to go from point A to C to get to point B, but at this time that's the only option out there. 

    Personally I agree with George in that you would be better served with a general Computer Science degree as you could go almost anywhere with it.  Good luck to you.

    http://www.freewebs.com/campelmxna/ - C# and XNA tutorials
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  • 02-17-2008 12:27 PM In reply to