[quote user="DarthCheesiest"]I would be happy with 0 point achievements[/quote] Now that is a very good idea, say limit it to ten 0 point achievements.

[quote user="Big Daddio"]I would hate for my xbox to anything except play games, I certainly would not want to do anything like play movies, check facebook, twitter, chat with friends etc. I am certain that Microsoft agrees with this point of view. Get your head out of 1992 and understand that they want the xbox to be a family ...

It is not just passes with the noobs, I got a fail with the explanation "crashes when flipping through the menus", only thing is I don't have menus that flip.  And of course this failed my update to my already passed game.  Would have traded that for a Great game, A++++ any day of the week.  Actually left me very deflated, ...

[quote user="Shawn Hargreaves"]Value types are an important part of the C# language. Without them, C# would be much less powerful and useful. [/quote] Didn't say they weren't just don't aprove of the name.  What is wrong with a new keyword.  Too late now I guess :) Nice links Bjoern Graf.

My question was really to Craig, I felt this thread was becoming confusing, the shadow copy is not relevant, and I am afraid I just added to the confusion by my rhetorical question.  I am not sure why they used the keyword struct in C# it just adds to the confusion, perhaps that was the goal, still less confusing than [Objective C]. I agree ...

So if you change the values in the copy, then the values in the original would change as well?  That the behavior is different just because it was used before the copy is nothing but confusing.

As somebody who took a Hex Editor to Ultima ][ I can't disagree :)  But I still want a Windows Live Indie Games App Store.

Are you mixing in 2D?  If so you may need to save state.

After I make my Indie Game Millions, I have to remember to go to all of the cool game conf. and shows.

I use the paid version of fraps, but have used camstudio in the past for MFC apps.